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Blogger Bob Mottram said...

Having seen the storytron site I'm still rather confused as to exactly what it is. Is this a kind of automated way of writing a piece of litterary fiction, or some other more graphical kind of game?

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Blogger Chris Crawford said...

Bob, your confusion is understandable, because Storytron is neither literary fiction nor a game. It's interactive storytelling, a completely new form of expression that has no precedent and is therefore difficult to imagine. The explanation at the overview on our site gives a rough idea. We're still adding to the documentation. We ourselves have a very clear image of what the experience is like but it's difficult to communicate in a few sentences.

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Anonymous aevarsson said...

I am also a bit curious, where does the word Storytron come from?

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Blogger Jonathan Beyrak Lev said...

Here's my stab at a few sentences' exaplanation for Storytronics:

Storytronics allows artists to create storywrolds, and it allows the general public to play storyworlds.

Playing a storyworld is like being the protagonist of a book or a movie - there's all sorts of drama happening, but instead of reading about how someone else experiences it, it's you who are experiencing it and choosing how to behave in each situation (this isn't like a game because your choices are of a narrative and interpersonal nature, and not "right", "left", "jump" or "shoot"). The pallete of choices is so rich and varied, I daresay Storytronics is the most involved, engaging, compelling and empowering form of interactive entertainment I'm aware of.

Creating a storyworld (storybuilding)is similar to fiction writing in that your objective is to create drama, but it's also similar to game design in that your main artistic challenge is creating algorithms (which, unlike in games, are meant to express the human condition, not the laws of physics). The revolutionary concept of dramatic algorithms is what makes interactive storytelling possible.

Hope this clarifies matters.

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Blogger Chris Crawford said...

aeversson, to answer your question, I coined the term "Erasmatron" for an earlier version of my technology. Why? Well, I like to play with words, and this neologism struck my fancy. So when we began casting around for a new term, I came up with "Storytron". Who knows the dark processes that gurgle inside the creative mind?

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Anonymous Joseph Limbaugh said...

This is very exciting. :)

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Anonymous aevarsson said...

I was mostly wondering about the word tron. Does it come from the word electron? I am also new to interactive storytelling, and only have experience with it from playing games like Myst.

Storytronics looks like a very powerful medium to tell stories and create storyworlds. Are there any good books available about creating interactive storyworlds?

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Blogger Jonathan Beyrak Lev said...

Aeversson, since this is a new field, there aren't many practical books available. Most of what's out there are highly theoretical books, which read like lists of questions and "what if" scenarios. I personally don't like these, but "Hamlet on the Holodeck" by Jeanette Murray was interesting. The best texts I'm familiar with are Chris' own writings, which were how I originally found out about this project. You can find a lot of quality material in his library at www.erasmatazz.com, though not everything there is relevant to this subject. There's also a link there to his highly relevant classic "The Art of Computer Game Design". His recent book, "Chris Crawford on Interactive Storytelling", is very good. His other books are fascinating, but aren't directly relevant. Brenda Laurel's 1985 dissertation, "Toward the Design of a Computer-Based Interactive Fantasy System" could interest you too. Oh, and avoid Glassner's book "Interactive Storytelling".

About games like Myst, let's just say you'll never miss them for interactive storytelling once you experience Storytronics ;-).

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Blogger Chris Crawford said...

aevarsson, it all started with the Greek word for amber, "elektron", which, when rubbed with a cloth, generates static electricity, so when the first particle of electricity was hypothesized, it was called an electron. Then other particles appeared and were named in contradistinction to the electron -- proton and neutron. Meanwhile, the technology that made specific use of the properties of the electron was dubbed "electronics". The suffix "tron" developed cachet, and was used in all manner of 1930s and 1940s high-tech terminology: a variety of special-purpose vacuum tube designs, the synchrotron, the cyclotron, etc. The fad peaked in the 1950s, by which time the public had caught onto it and the suffix was used to connote a really high-tech, high-power doodad. The suffix became passe by the 1960s; the coup de grace was delivered by Woody Allen in a futuristic film that featured the "Orgasmatron", an off-stage machine with obvious applications.

I thought it cutely retro to revive the old suffix for Erasmatron.

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Anonymous Joseph Limbaugh said...

Orgasmatron might have been the coup de grace, but don't forget the dénouement, which would be the movie "Tron." We all really thought "tron" had jumped the shark at that time.

FYI - I know the movie Tron was named after the computer debug command Trace-On and not on the famous suffix, please forgive my artistic meddling in the cause of humor.

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Anonymous aevarsson said...

I am interested in the possibilities of Storytronics, if it goes beyond a game like Myst and to a technology like a Holodeck. I dont know if it is anything similiar to it, but thought of it because of the title of the book "Hamlet on the Holodeck". I am not sure about the basic principles of telling a story with computer actors, but a Holodeck looks like something similiar.

I think the tron suffix is interesting, if an orgasmatron is some kind of a machine, then are Erasmatron and Storytron a story machine? I think the website gives good information for how it works.

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Blogger Jonathan Beyrak Lev said...

Aevarsson, I would say our technology is closer in spirit to the Holodeck than to Myst because we put an emphasis on interactivity. But the comparison can be misleading. While both are highly interactive, The Holodeck is a realistic simulation, while a storyworld is a symbolic representation. Storytronics has a tighter focus, which means, for example, that we've cut out almost all the physical factors that have little bearing on drama. I will soon be adding an article on Verb-based dramatic interaction to the overview section, which should clarify my meaning.

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Blogger LauraJMixon said...

I've often referred to Storytron as the baby holodeck.

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Anonymous aevarsson said...

Yes, that is interesting. What they also seem to share is the focus on character interaction. One of my favourite stories on the Holodeck revolve around one of the crews character, Data. Where he is playing the role of Sherlock Holmes and trying to discover some mystery. Playing Sherlock Holmes in a Storytron environment could be interesting.

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The tron thing really doesn't make much sense, because electron, proton and neutron are not machines, they're partical matter.... so I'm confused... does anyone here take latin??

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